I am an experienced stud player but relatively new Hold’Em player. I haven’t found anything in the HE books I’m reading about chopping. Example – I am playing $10/$20 HE at the Horseshoe in Tunica. Player to my right asks if I “chop”. Being a fairly aggressive guy, I say “no”. Guy looks at me like I just spit at him and a player across the table says, “Did I hear you say you don’t chop?” Again I say yes. This guy also gives me a strange look. Most other HE players just seem to say “sure” or “whatever you want”. Later I was in the small blind and heads up with the big bling and raised. The big blind gave me a disgusted look and folded. Same thing when I was in the big blind and heads up with the little blind – he gives me the same disgusted look and pushes me his small blind. So, what’s the story? Is it to my advantage to chop
- and is it considered rude or poor form not to chop?
Answer 1:
You should generally chop in a raked game, unless your opponent plays terribly heads-up. In a time charge game, consider your hand and your opponent. Loose-aggressive players can actually be problematic heads-up; your ideal opponent here is weak-tight or passive and predictable. If you are asked, and then look down to find 92o, then chop. In more social low-limit games, people often expect others to chop, and it can irritate them if you don’t. Above the low-limits, people usually understand if you want to play it rather than chop. If your opponents play somewhat reasonably heads-up, you will hardly be giving up anything if you chop with a trash hand. The tiny loss in expectation from being a marginally better heads-up player will often be more than made up for by the advantage of keeping them in a good mood.
Answer 2:
This is pretty normal. Almost everyone agrees to chop in a lot of games. It doesn’t mean you have to, but you may want to just to make the game more fun for your opponents. If you’re a good heads-up player and it’s a time (as opposed to rake) game, it probably costs a bit of EV to chop, but it’s a small amount compared to what it costs to have your opponents pay more attention to the game because you’ve drawn their attention to something unusual. In a rake game, your heads-up EV is even smaller so you should almost always chop if that’s the norm at this casino. Also, in a good game, it should happen very rarely. Of course, if your INTENDED table image is that of shark, and you think this tilts players, then you may arrive at a different conclusion. It’s considered rude by some players, but is perfectly legal and there’s no ethical problem with it. Heck, some players consider it rude to check-raise and that shouldn’t (in most cases) stop you.
Answer 3:
I faced a similar situation where an entire table was disgusted that I would not chop. That thread was called “To chop or not to chop. That is the question”. You may want to look it up. Anyway, at the time I was dead set on not chopping. A year or so later… I will now chop playing up to 20-40 when there is a rake. I don’t chop when playing 30-60 or higher or at any limit that has a time charge rather than a rake. Most players seem to argue that chopping is a good idea because taking two random hands heads up in the blinds makes the rake a huge factor. I never wanted to chop because I’ve always felt I’m a good shorthanded/heads up player. This made me think that I could take advantage of these situations in the blind where I can outplay my opponent. I think you should just do what you’re comfortable with, however I think most players chop when there is a rake up to 20-40. As for being rude or poor form, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal… All you have to do is smile and say “I prefer to play it out.”




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